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		<title>By: Denis Watkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denis Watkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 08:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You might be surprised at the degree of censorship excercised by that world wide beacon of supposed free speech - the BBC.&#160;  Unhappy with the excercise of this precious commodity on their chatline about current affairs they decided that not only would everything be censored (the call it pre-moderated) but only they would decide on the subjects.&#160;  So BBC rip offs on their phone in competitions and the lack of trust in the BBC did not appear.&#160;
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The asked for aopinions a while back if non believers should be allowed on their daily religious programme Thought for the Day.&#160;  They didn&#8217;t say non believers in what - fairies, Odin, Santa Clause.&#160; They meant of course God - unspecified which, of course.&#160;  Sceptics are still banned although any religious bigot seems welcome including a drunken, freeloading bishop.&#160;
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We are, of course, forced to pay for the BBC regardless of our views and there still remains a core, very tiny now, that is excellent.&#160;  However, their hours and hours of tedious religious nonsense continues, the Queen spouts drivel in her broadcast every year and says that the hope of the world lies in religion, and so it goes on.
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Whatever the BBC was, or is, it is definitely not a bastion of Free Speech - it stains its reputation every day with its obseesive protection of religious, its obsequious kow towing to a dysfunctional Royal Family which is the antithesis of democracy and its readiness to bend to the will of the government in power.
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They banned me from their chat line for &#8220;using more than one address&#8221; - a lie.&#160;  I have never done that either in an email or my home address.&#160;     When I complained by phone they said someone would phone me but it might not be for ten days or longer.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might be surprised at the degree of censorship excercised by that world wide beacon of supposed free speech &#8211; the BBC.&nbsp;  Unhappy with the excercise of this precious commodity on their chatline about current affairs they decided that not only would everything be censored (the call it pre-moderated) but only they would decide on the subjects.&nbsp;  So BBC rip offs on their phone in competitions and the lack of trust in the BBC did not appear.&nbsp;
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The asked for aopinions a while back if non believers should be allowed on their daily religious programme Thought for the Day.&nbsp;  They didn&#8217;t say non believers in what &#8211; fairies, Odin, Santa Clause.&nbsp; They meant of course God &#8211; unspecified which, of course.&nbsp;  Sceptics are still banned although any religious bigot seems welcome including a drunken, freeloading bishop.&nbsp;
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We are, of course, forced to pay for the BBC regardless of our views and there still remains a core, very tiny now, that is excellent.&nbsp;  However, their hours and hours of tedious religious nonsense continues, the Queen spouts drivel in her broadcast every year and says that the hope of the world lies in religion, and so it goes on.
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Whatever the BBC was, or is, it is definitely not a bastion of Free Speech &#8211; it stains its reputation every day with its obseesive protection of religious, its obsequious kow towing to a dysfunctional Royal Family which is the antithesis of democracy and its readiness to bend to the will of the government in power.
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They banned me from their chat line for &#8220;using more than one address&#8221; &#8211; a lie.&nbsp;  I have never done that either in an email or my home address.&nbsp;     When I complained by phone they said someone would phone me but it might not be for ten days or longer.</p>
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		<title>By: amos o'brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>amos o'brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 14:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good on you for standing up for free speech. Every time I go to see my Football team (The mighty Melbourne Victory) I would commit a similar offence to the loony Mohammadian demonstrators described. When an opposition player is hurt the crowd chants &#8220;dig a hole&#8221;. We might be upset about the player feining injury but we don&#8217;t literally want him buried alive. Free speech is non conditional or it is not free speech.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good on you for standing up for free speech. Every time I go to see my Football team (The mighty Melbourne Victory) I would commit a similar offence to the loony Mohammadian demonstrators described. When an opposition player is hurt the crowd chants &#8220;dig a hole&#8221;. We might be upset about the player feining injury but we don&#8217;t literally want him buried alive. Free speech is non conditional or it is not free speech.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Stovold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Stovold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree about the need for free speech and don&#8217;t think that inciting hatred should be criminalised.&#160; Inciting violence, however, should.&#160; In one paragraph you acknowledge that &#8220;Muslim protestors who chant ‘behead those who insult Islam’ may be moronic&#8221;, but in the next you say &#8220;People do not respond to words like robots. They think and reason&#8221;.&#160; If only everyone did!&#160; Most Muslims aren&#8217;t moronic robots (or terrorists), but a few of them are.&#160; Those are the ones we should all be worried about!&#160; Perhaps a law against inciting violence won&#8217;t make much of a difference in practical terms - but it at least lays down an important principle that most people (Muslim and non-Muslim) can unite behind.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree about the need for free speech and don&#8217;t think that inciting hatred should be criminalised.&nbsp; Inciting violence, however, should.&nbsp; In one paragraph you acknowledge that &#8220;Muslim protestors who chant ‘behead those who insult Islam’ may be moronic&#8221;, but in the next you say &#8220;People do not respond to words like robots. They think and reason&#8221;.&nbsp; If only everyone did!&nbsp; Most Muslims aren&#8217;t moronic robots (or terrorists), but a few of them are.&nbsp; Those are the ones we should all be worried about!&nbsp; Perhaps a law against inciting violence won&#8217;t make much of a difference in practical terms &#8211; but it at least lays down an important principle that most people (Muslim and non-Muslim) can unite behind.</p>
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