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		<title>By: Balder</title>
		<link>http://www.indexoncensorship.org/2008/10/does-britain-have-a-holocaust-denial-law/comment-page-1/#comment-860</link>
		<dc:creator>Balder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A case which could have similar implications as the Gerald Fredrick Töben Saga is going on in Denmark right now.

Here some people accused by Germany of distributing &#039;Nazi-music&#039; are demanded extradited by the Zionist controlled regime in Germany. This is not a punishable offense in Denmark, but a court has ordered for the extradition under the European Arrest Warrant to proceed. The victims have appealed.

The treacherous Danish press which has a disproportionally large number of Jewish journalists in important positions, has not printed one discussion about the implications, and only very sparingly reported about the trial.

The Danish press has not wasted one word on the Toben case either. They purposely keep the silence of the grave while our local legislation and our nations sovereignty is undermined by Brussels and Zionist controlled Germany. 

Help me break the silence and spread the word about this very similar case as well, we cannot let these controlled journalists get away with the crime of not reporting extensively on such important cases and the implications of this legislation..

The latest news about the Danish case:

&lt;b&gt;October 23, 2008 - Denmark: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.balder.org/?p=512&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Alleged Nazi-music distributors extradition case in court in Elsinore&lt;/a&gt; (http://blog.balder.org/?p=512)

Here my &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.balder.org/Links-Extradition-Cases-Toben-Danish-Music-Producers.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;index of articles about the Danish case and the Toben case&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A case which could have similar implications as the Gerald Fredrick Töben Saga is going on in Denmark right now.</p>
<p>Here some people accused by Germany of distributing &#8216;Nazi-music&#8217; are demanded extradited by the Zionist controlled regime in Germany. This is not a punishable offense in Denmark, but a court has ordered for the extradition under the European Arrest Warrant to proceed. The victims have appealed.</p>
<p>The treacherous Danish press which has a disproportionally large number of Jewish journalists in important positions, has not printed one discussion about the implications, and only very sparingly reported about the trial.</p>
<p>The Danish press has not wasted one word on the Toben case either. They purposely keep the silence of the grave while our local legislation and our nations sovereignty is undermined by Brussels and Zionist controlled Germany. </p>
<p>Help me break the silence and spread the word about this very similar case as well, we cannot let these controlled journalists get away with the crime of not reporting extensively on such important cases and the implications of this legislation..</p>
<p>The latest news about the Danish case:</p>
<p><b>October 23, 2008 &#8211; Denmark: </b><a href="http://blog.balder.org/?p=512" rel="nofollow">Alleged Nazi-music distributors extradition case in court in Elsinore</a> (<a href="http://blog.balder.org/?p=512" rel="nofollow">http://blog.balder.org/?p=512</a>)</p>
<p>Here my <a href="http://blog.balder.org/Links-Extradition-Cases-Toben-Danish-Music-Producers.php" rel="nofollow">index of articles about the Danish case and the Toben case</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paulina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paulina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for writing this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for writing this.</p>
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		<title>By: CW 3100 Creative Industries: Censorship &#171; RHUL Creative Writers Weblog</title>
		<link>http://www.indexoncensorship.org/2008/10/does-britain-have-a-holocaust-denial-law/comment-page-1/#comment-806</link>
		<dc:creator>CW 3100 Creative Industries: Censorship &#171; RHUL Creative Writers Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How far should freedom of speech extend?  What, for instance, do you think of David Irving prosecution as a holocaust denier?  Or the recent arrest by UK authorities of Frederick Toben? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] How far should freedom of speech extend?  What, for instance, do you think of David Irving prosecution as a holocaust denier?  Or the recent arrest by UK authorities of Frederick Toben? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: gncarlo</title>
		<link>http://www.indexoncensorship.org/2008/10/does-britain-have-a-holocaust-denial-law/comment-page-1/#comment-724</link>
		<dc:creator>gncarlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The world grows weary of the Jew and his political movement posing as a religion, relentlessly attacking any who don&#039;t share his delusions of being &quot;God&#039;s Chosen&quot;, but crying &quot;religious persecution&quot; and &quot;anti-semitism&quot; whenever his victims object to the lies and eternal warfare against the rest of mankind. There is hope for a brighter future though: 1. the internet offers hope that the world&#039;s people may continue to freely exchange ideas and experiences and get at the truth despite the efforts of the Jew&#039;s puppets in the world&#039;s parliaments, and 2. America is beyond bankruptcy.  When the world realizes this, the imperial pretensions will be dropped and the troops will have to come home.  We&#039;ll see how many of her sons and daughters Germany will be willing to imprison without an American army of occupation, and we&#039;ll see what Israel does without the yearly tribute from the West. We live in interesting times...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The world grows weary of the Jew and his political movement posing as a religion, relentlessly attacking any who don&#8217;t share his delusions of being &#8220;God&#8217;s Chosen&#8221;, but crying &#8220;religious persecution&#8221; and &#8220;anti-semitism&#8221; whenever his victims object to the lies and eternal warfare against the rest of mankind. There is hope for a brighter future though: 1. the internet offers hope that the world&#8217;s people may continue to freely exchange ideas and experiences and get at the truth despite the efforts of the Jew&#8217;s puppets in the world&#8217;s parliaments, and 2. America is beyond bankruptcy.  When the world realizes this, the imperial pretensions will be dropped and the troops will have to come home.  We&#8217;ll see how many of her sons and daughters Germany will be willing to imprison without an American army of occupation, and we&#8217;ll see what Israel does without the yearly tribute from the West. We live in interesting times&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: llloyd</title>
		<link>http://www.indexoncensorship.org/2008/10/does-britain-have-a-holocaust-denial-law/comment-page-1/#comment-710</link>
		<dc:creator>llloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 10:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent that Index on Censorship is treating the Toben case as a censorship issue, even making it the main story. I wish I could say the same for Amnesty International that actively campaigns to have revisionists imprisoned. Not even Orwell could have imagined that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent that Index on Censorship is treating the Toben case as a censorship issue, even making it the main story. I wish I could say the same for Amnesty International that actively campaigns to have revisionists imprisoned. Not even Orwell could have imagined that.</p>
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		<title>By: Rowan Berkeley</title>
		<link>http://www.indexoncensorship.org/2008/10/does-britain-have-a-holocaust-denial-law/comment-page-1/#comment-709</link>
		<dc:creator>Rowan Berkeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 06:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hard cases make bad law, and Jewish international politics are largely about cultivating hard cases, so as to impose bad law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hard cases make bad law, and Jewish international politics are largely about cultivating hard cases, so as to impose bad law.</p>
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		<title>By: Syd Walker</title>
		<link>http://www.indexoncensorship.org/2008/10/does-britain-have-a-holocaust-denial-law/comment-page-1/#comment-708</link>
		<dc:creator>Syd Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 06:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please correct spelling if you publish my previous letter

Hezollah &gt; Hezbollah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please correct spelling if you publish my previous letter</p>
<p>Hezollah &gt; Hezbollah</p>
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		<title>By: Syd Walker</title>
		<link>http://www.indexoncensorship.org/2008/10/does-britain-have-a-holocaust-denial-law/comment-page-1/#comment-707</link>
		<dc:creator>Syd Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 06:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Zionist lobby is clearly seeking to persecute its ideological enemies, using inside connections in Britain and Germany to seek application of laws overtly introduced to fight terrorism and serious crime.

In Australia, more than 20 new &#039;anti-Terrorism&#039; laws have been enacted in recent years, greatly constraining our civil liberties.

An example is a law which made providing Hezollah with &#039;material support&#039; punishable by staggering jail sentences. It meant that, during the 2006 Israeli assault on The Lebanon, Australian relatives of people defending their homeland from external agression risked imprisonment in Australia for sending flowers to a funeral! By contrast, when Israeli-Australian dual nationals fighting in the IDF were killed, it was an Australian national tragedy, judging by mainstream media coverage.

It&#039;s clear where the major push against freedom of expression is coming from - who gains and who loses.

I believe the Zionist lobby is grossly overplaying its hand in this latest case. 

Freedom of speech is a basic human right and will be vigorously defended, even by people who usually find other ways to spend their time. The greater the push to criminalize beliefs, the greater the resistance. Truth does not require legal props.

Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is unambiguous:

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

It could reasonably be objected that The Holocaust is not a matter of opinion, but rather of a quasi-religious nature, given restrictions on free enquiry and dissent. 

Even so, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights has that covered too. 

Here&#039;s Article 18:

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Zionist lobby is clearly seeking to persecute its ideological enemies, using inside connections in Britain and Germany to seek application of laws overtly introduced to fight terrorism and serious crime.</p>
<p>In Australia, more than 20 new &#8216;anti-Terrorism&#8217; laws have been enacted in recent years, greatly constraining our civil liberties.</p>
<p>An example is a law which made providing Hezollah with &#8216;material support&#8217; punishable by staggering jail sentences. It meant that, during the 2006 Israeli assault on The Lebanon, Australian relatives of people defending their homeland from external agression risked imprisonment in Australia for sending flowers to a funeral! By contrast, when Israeli-Australian dual nationals fighting in the IDF were killed, it was an Australian national tragedy, judging by mainstream media coverage.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s clear where the major push against freedom of expression is coming from &#8211; who gains and who loses.</p>
<p>I believe the Zionist lobby is grossly overplaying its hand in this latest case. </p>
<p>Freedom of speech is a basic human right and will be vigorously defended, even by people who usually find other ways to spend their time. The greater the push to criminalize beliefs, the greater the resistance. Truth does not require legal props.</p>
<p>Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is unambiguous:</p>
<p>Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.</p>
<p>It could reasonably be objected that The Holocaust is not a matter of opinion, but rather of a quasi-religious nature, given restrictions on free enquiry and dissent. </p>
<p>Even so, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights has that covered too. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s Article 18:</p>
<p>Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.</p>
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		<title>By: Sophia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sophia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 23:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps Dr. Toben was visiting in Aerica before going  on  to Dubai.

More interesting is why  do YOU  choose  to
make an issue of the itinerary of his trip?

He did not leave the plane so it needs asking how he  could he of any threat to Britain. It is mind boggling  that he could be arrested while awaiting  the next phase of the trip and had nothing to do with Britain or Germany.

what insanity is this?

How huge are the lies that require such extreme measures to keep  hidden?

Sophia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps Dr. Toben was visiting in Aerica before going  on  to Dubai.</p>
<p>More interesting is why  do YOU  choose  to<br />
make an issue of the itinerary of his trip?</p>
<p>He did not leave the plane so it needs asking how he  could he of any threat to Britain. It is mind boggling  that he could be arrested while awaiting  the next phase of the trip and had nothing to do with Britain or Germany.</p>
<p>what insanity is this?</p>
<p>How huge are the lies that require such extreme measures to keep  hidden?</p>
<p>Sophia</p>
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		<title>By: Geseke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geseke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 14:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frederick  Toben lives in Australia.  Why was he flying from the United States to the UK, to get to Dubai?  Why didn&#039;t he take a different route since he surely knows the EU laws?  This is like David Irving going into Austria to give a lecture when he knew that there was a warrant for his arrest in Austria.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frederick  Toben lives in Australia.  Why was he flying from the United States to the UK, to get to Dubai?  Why didn&#8217;t he take a different route since he surely knows the EU laws?  This is like David Irving going into Austria to give a lecture when he knew that there was a warrant for his arrest in Austria.</p>
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