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		<title>By: From the Online &#187; Obnoxious people have the right to freedom of speech too, don&#8217;t they?</title>
		<link>http://www.indexoncensorship.org/2009/06/tyrannys-shield/comment-page-1/#comment-1610</link>
		<dc:creator>From the Online &#187; Obnoxious people have the right to freedom of speech too, don&#8217;t they?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] he thought the public interest was better served by his unmasking; I don&#8217;t. As David Banisar wrote on the Index on Censorship, anonymous sources have long been considered essential to free [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] he thought the public interest was better served by his unmasking; I don&#8217;t. As David Banisar wrote on the Index on Censorship, anonymous sources have long been considered essential to free [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Index on Censorship: Tyranny’s shield &#124; CyberLaw Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.indexoncensorship.org/2009/06/tyrannys-shield/comment-page-1/#comment-1427</link>
		<dc:creator>Index on Censorship: Tyranny’s shield &#124; CyberLaw Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Index on Censorship » Blog Archive » Tyranny’s shield [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Paul Bailey</title>
		<link>http://www.indexoncensorship.org/2009/06/tyrannys-shield/comment-page-1/#comment-1402</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re anonymous posting of anything, please think about it for a minute. It&#039;s about credibility. If what you have to say is responsible, respectful, and constructive albeit critical, then you should have no problem using your real name. It lends credibility to your opinion. However to hide behind a mask of any kind, removes credibility, holds no one accountable for the statement, and is therefore completely and utterly worthless. 

Taken to the extreme, ask yourself how do you know the source of the information or opinion is even real? It could be the very enemy you fight, freely using dis-information to confuse you, get you to tilt at windmills, fight a tangential fight. While you attention is on that, the real game is going on behind you. 

Think about it. 

Freely I give my name here... 

Paul Bailey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re anonymous posting of anything, please think about it for a minute. It&#8217;s about credibility. If what you have to say is responsible, respectful, and constructive albeit critical, then you should have no problem using your real name. It lends credibility to your opinion. However to hide behind a mask of any kind, removes credibility, holds no one accountable for the statement, and is therefore completely and utterly worthless. </p>
<p>Taken to the extreme, ask yourself how do you know the source of the information or opinion is even real? It could be the very enemy you fight, freely using dis-information to confuse you, get you to tilt at windmills, fight a tangential fight. While you attention is on that, the real game is going on behind you. </p>
<p>Think about it. </p>
<p>Freely I give my name here&#8230; </p>
<p>Paul Bailey</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Walters</title>
		<link>http://www.indexoncensorship.org/2009/06/tyrannys-shield/comment-page-1/#comment-1395</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Walters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Already election material, leaflets etc, must carry the name of the publisher and the printer, and it may be necessary to extend this to election material published by e-mails or on the internet, if this is not already done.   
It would be easy to extend this to all published material not only election material.

Barry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Already election material, leaflets etc, must carry the name of the publisher and the printer, and it may be necessary to extend this to election material published by e-mails or on the internet, if this is not already done.<br />
It would be easy to extend this to all published material not only election material.</p>
<p>Barry</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Pearse</title>
		<link>http://www.indexoncensorship.org/2009/06/tyrannys-shield/comment-page-1/#comment-1394</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Pearse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The basic issue is one of freedom of speech for little people.  You rightly say that we need reform in this area.  As more and more laws are passed which criminalise the expression of various opinions, naturally the demand for anonymity grows, and equally naturally the state tries to violate it.

The public interest was not served by shutting down this whistleblower.  On the contrary; only the political interests of some narrow-minded senior policemen were served, and the interests of everyone else were damaged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The basic issue is one of freedom of speech for little people.  You rightly say that we need reform in this area.  As more and more laws are passed which criminalise the expression of various opinions, naturally the demand for anonymity grows, and equally naturally the state tries to violate it.</p>
<p>The public interest was not served by shutting down this whistleblower.  On the contrary; only the political interests of some narrow-minded senior policemen were served, and the interests of everyone else were damaged.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Fisher</title>
		<link>http://www.indexoncensorship.org/2009/06/tyrannys-shield/comment-page-1/#comment-1392</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dave - long time no see - I don&#039;t think you have this right. The Times shouldnt&#039; be restricted from publishing factual information - no matter what that info might be - that has been obtained via any normal journalistic process; as happened here. NightJack wasn&#039;t &quot;forced&quot; to abandon anonymity, he simply left sufficient clues for a journo to expose him. Why they chose to do that is another story - and relates more to the MSM&#039;s hate of the &#039;net than anything else - but you can&#039;t make reporting the facts illegal...

What *does* need opposing would be any legislative attack on anonymous publishing, online or elsewhere: making it an actual offence to publish anonymously. But in a roundabout way, this is what we face in the UK and elsewhere; via data retention and effectively unlimited trawling, but also by mooted suggestions, which keep coming back, of *confirmed* online identities. Whether that is via some kind of biometric login, or a packet by packet ISP-attached identifier, or any other such scheme, that needs to be opposed strongly.

As it stands, you can, more or less, publish anonymously if you&#039;re clued up enough, try hard enough, use the right tools - moves to criminalise those tools, or worse, put them out of reach with some &quot;gentlemen&#039;s agreement&quot;, eg P2P, need exposing for what they are.

I shall miss Nightjack, but it&#039;s the police at fault for refusing to accept dissent in the ranks, rather than the press, or even that publicity hound Eady.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave &#8211; long time no see &#8211; I don&#8217;t think you have this right. The Times shouldnt&#8217; be restricted from publishing factual information &#8211; no matter what that info might be &#8211; that has been obtained via any normal journalistic process; as happened here. NightJack wasn&#8217;t &#8220;forced&#8221; to abandon anonymity, he simply left sufficient clues for a journo to expose him. Why they chose to do that is another story &#8211; and relates more to the MSM&#8217;s hate of the &#8216;net than anything else &#8211; but you can&#8217;t make reporting the facts illegal&#8230;</p>
<p>What *does* need opposing would be any legislative attack on anonymous publishing, online or elsewhere: making it an actual offence to publish anonymously. But in a roundabout way, this is what we face in the UK and elsewhere; via data retention and effectively unlimited trawling, but also by mooted suggestions, which keep coming back, of *confirmed* online identities. Whether that is via some kind of biometric login, or a packet by packet ISP-attached identifier, or any other such scheme, that needs to be opposed strongly.</p>
<p>As it stands, you can, more or less, publish anonymously if you&#8217;re clued up enough, try hard enough, use the right tools &#8211; moves to criminalise those tools, or worse, put them out of reach with some &#8220;gentlemen&#8217;s agreement&#8221;, eg P2P, need exposing for what they are.</p>
<p>I shall miss Nightjack, but it&#8217;s the police at fault for refusing to accept dissent in the ranks, rather than the press, or even that publicity hound Eady.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.indexoncensorship.org/2009/06/tyrannys-shield/comment-page-1/#comment-1391</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 07:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You seem to ignore the diference between the right to publish and the obligation to reveal. The fact that public interest gives the Times the right to publish the name of an anonymous blogger does not mean that that same interest could coerce wikileaks or anyone else to reveal their sources.

Surely those who argue for freedom of expression and complain against the broadning of rights of privacy should not complain when the Times reveals the identity of an anonymous blogger. It would be very different if an internet provider were forced to reveal a blogger&#039;s identity but that is not what this case is about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem to ignore the diference between the right to publish and the obligation to reveal. The fact that public interest gives the Times the right to publish the name of an anonymous blogger does not mean that that same interest could coerce wikileaks or anyone else to reveal their sources.</p>
<p>Surely those who argue for freedom of expression and complain against the broadning of rights of privacy should not complain when the Times reveals the identity of an anonymous blogger. It would be very different if an internet provider were forced to reveal a blogger&#8217;s identity but that is not what this case is about.</p>
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		<title>By: Julian Assange</title>
		<link>http://www.indexoncensorship.org/2009/06/tyrannys-shield/comment-page-1/#comment-1390</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian Assange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on the reportage of the case, Justice Eady ruled correctly. To have done otherwise would to state it would be agree that the state may use its monopoly on violence to gag the Times.

While the British judiciary is to be condemned for issuing gag orders in other cases, the double standard is better remedied by refusing to apply gag orders anywhere, rather than applying them everywhere.

Anonymity is important exactly because it is an enabler of  freedom of expression. But to protect it, and poorly, while curtailing freedom of expression is counter-productive.

As for WikiLeaks, it does not need protection of these laws; Although we are, in theory, protected under Belgium and Swedish source-protection laws, these laws are directed against the state itself, not journalists, and many of our opponents do not follow the rule of law. That is why we have technical systems to protect our sources regardless of law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on the reportage of the case, Justice Eady ruled correctly. To have done otherwise would to state it would be agree that the state may use its monopoly on violence to gag the Times.</p>
<p>While the British judiciary is to be condemned for issuing gag orders in other cases, the double standard is better remedied by refusing to apply gag orders anywhere, rather than applying them everywhere.</p>
<p>Anonymity is important exactly because it is an enabler of  freedom of expression. But to protect it, and poorly, while curtailing freedom of expression is counter-productive.</p>
<p>As for WikiLeaks, it does not need protection of these laws; Although we are, in theory, protected under Belgium and Swedish source-protection laws, these laws are directed against the state itself, not journalists, and many of our opponents do not follow the rule of law. That is why we have technical systems to protect our sources regardless of law.</p>
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		<title>By: Gareth</title>
		<link>http://www.indexoncensorship.org/2009/06/tyrannys-shield/comment-page-1/#comment-1389</link>
		<dc:creator>Gareth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should Night Jack be allowed to restrain the right to free expression because of mistakes &lt;i&gt;he&lt;/i&gt; made on his blog that allowed him to be identified?

Would bloggers be so up in arms about this if Night Jack had been attempting to injunct a blogger rather than a newspaper?

The Night Jack case will serve to strenghten anonymous blogging not weaken it, as it is a warning that you must do things properly. Don&#039;t set yourself up as an anonymous blogger and then actively court attention or make it relatively easy for people to find out who you are.

The MacIntyre case seems to me, a non-expert, to be a bit of a red herring. Nice sentiment though. It was about whether MacIntyre could publish without being &lt;i&gt;required&lt;/i&gt; to put her name on every pamphlet. That is akin to not being &lt;i&gt;allowed&lt;/i&gt; (rather than &lt;i&gt;able&lt;/i&gt;) to publish on a blog anonymously. It did not concern absolute protection from ever being named. 

Night Jack can still publish anonymously if he wants to - just pick another pseudonym and be more careful. He would have stood a better chance of remaining anonymous by being less specific with the details he published.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should Night Jack be allowed to restrain the right to free expression because of mistakes <i>he</i> made on his blog that allowed him to be identified?</p>
<p>Would bloggers be so up in arms about this if Night Jack had been attempting to injunct a blogger rather than a newspaper?</p>
<p>The Night Jack case will serve to strenghten anonymous blogging not weaken it, as it is a warning that you must do things properly. Don&#8217;t set yourself up as an anonymous blogger and then actively court attention or make it relatively easy for people to find out who you are.</p>
<p>The MacIntyre case seems to me, a non-expert, to be a bit of a red herring. Nice sentiment though. It was about whether MacIntyre could publish without being <i>required</i> to put her name on every pamphlet. That is akin to not being <i>allowed</i> (rather than <i>able</i>) to publish on a blog anonymously. It did not concern absolute protection from ever being named. </p>
<p>Night Jack can still publish anonymously if he wants to &#8211; just pick another pseudonym and be more careful. He would have stood a better chance of remaining anonymous by being less specific with the details he published.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Bloggs</title>
		<link>http://www.indexoncensorship.org/2009/06/tyrannys-shield/comment-page-1/#comment-1388</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Bloggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the many things that sticks in the craw about this action by The Times is that Newspapers frequently publish articles by Journalists writing under false names to protect their anonimity. They also make a virtue out of protecting Their Sources.
Seems like this was simply an act of professional jealousy by the paper.
Ive stopped buying it by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the many things that sticks in the craw about this action by The Times is that Newspapers frequently publish articles by Journalists writing under false names to protect their anonimity. They also make a virtue out of protecting Their Sources.<br />
Seems like this was simply an act of professional jealousy by the paper.<br />
Ive stopped buying it by the way.</p>
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