{"id":93668,"date":"2012-10-18T15:10:20","date_gmt":"2012-10-18T15:10:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.indexoncensorship.org\/?p=9726"},"modified":"2012-10-18T15:10:20","modified_gmt":"2012-10-18T15:10:20","slug":"comms-data-bill-panel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.indexoncensorship.org\/newsite02may\/?p=93668","title":{"rendered":"Event Recap: Index debates the UK&#039;s &quot;Snooper&#039;s Charter&quot;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>If passed, the UK&#8217;s\u00a0draft <a title=\"Index on Censorship - The return of a bad idea\" href=\"http:\/\/www.indexoncensorship.org\/newsite02may\/2012\/06\/cindy-cohn-communications-bill\/\" target=\"_blank\">Communications Data Bill<\/a>\u00a0&#8212; also known as the &#8220;Snooper\u2019s Charter&#8221; &#8212;\u00a0will make room for the blanket storage of information on British citizen&#8217;s emails, text messages and internet activity. Companies would have to collect data they don&#8217;t currently retain,\u00a0and the Home Secretary would have the power to request communications equipment manufacturers install hardware to make spying easier.<\/p>\n<p>With these concerns in mind Index hosted a panel on the bill today chaired by trustee <a title=\"Twitter - John Kampfner\" href=\"http:\/\/www.twitter.com\/johnkampfner\" target=\"_blank\">John Kampfner<\/a>, who was joined by\u00a0Index CEO Kirsty Hughes, Demos\u2019s\u00a0<a title=\"Twitter - Jamie Bartlett\" href=\"http:\/\/www.twitter.com\/jamiejbartlett\" target=\"_blank\">Jamie Bartlett<\/a>, Emma Ascroft of Yahoo and\u00a0<a title=\"Twitter - Ian Brown\" href=\"http:\/\/www.twitter.com\/guppiefish\" target=\"_blank\">Ian Brown<\/a> from Oxford University.<\/p>\n<p>There was consensus over the bill\u2019s red flags, particularly its broad language and wide extension of surveillance powers to anyone who provides telecommunications operating systems. This would include social networks and domain name registries.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet tw-align-center\">\n<p>K Hughes @<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/indexcensorship\">indexcensorship<\/a>: danger that authoritarian regimes will adopt &amp; imitate UK&#8217;ssnoopers&#8217; charter. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/search\/%23commsdata\">#commsdata<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Natasha Schmidt (@tasheschmidt) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/tasheschmidt\/status\/258869683158151168\" data-datetime=\"2012-10-18T09:58:36+00:00\">October 18, 2012<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>For Yahoo&#8217;s Emma Ascroft, it was unclear what consideration the UK\u2019s Home Office had given to jurisdiction boundaries. The broad nature of the bill means the UK would be the first country to extend its jurisdiction, creating a <a title=\"Joint Committee on Draft Communications Data Bill - Minutes 6 September 2012\" href=\"http:\/\/www.parliament.uk\/documents\/joint-committees\/communications-data\/uc060912ev8HC479viii%20(consol%20panel%201).pdf\" target=\"_blank\">reserve power<\/a> to \u201crequire UK providers to retain data that they could not obtain directly.\u201d The Home Office has acknowledged, Ascroft said, that the UK would be the first country to extend its jurisdiction in this way, but added there will be a \u201ctension\u201d where UK citizens\u2019 data is available to foreign law enforcement authorities. This would, she warned, lead to a \u201ccomplex patchwork of overlapping laws\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Of equal concern was them chilling effect the bill could have if passed, as Index CEO Kirsty Hughes described:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>It risks undermining anonymity, particularly whistleblowing, if user data can be tracked and comprehensively collected.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet tw-align-center\">\n<p>K.Hughes @<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/indexcensorship\">indexcensorship<\/a>: govt sending mixed messages. You can&#8217;t defend online freedoms in one context, withdraw them in another <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/search\/%23commsdata\">#commsdata<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; robertsharp59 (@robertsharp59) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/robertsharp59\/status\/258869348544958464\" data-datetime=\"2012-10-18T09:57:16+00:00\">October 18, 2012<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet tw-align-center\">\n<p>Hughes @<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/indexcensorship\">indexcensorship<\/a>: Is the Govt&#8217;s first duty to protect our SECURITY or our RIGHTS? <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/search\/%23CommsData\">#CommsData<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; robertsharp59 (@robertsharp59) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/robertsharp59\/status\/258869705635414016\" data-datetime=\"2012-10-18T09:58:42+00:00\">October 18, 2012<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>But despite conceding no other democracies had gone as far as the UK proposes to go, Jamie Bartlett felt the bill didn\u2019t go far enough. Emphatic that he was \u201cin favour of regulated, transparent and clear powers of surveillance\u201d, he said there were far greater problems posed by the ability of the government to access open source social media content, which is currently not covered by the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (RIPA). <a title=\"Index on Censorship - Debate: The real problems with the Communications Data Bill may not be what you think \" href=\"http:\/\/blog.indexoncensorship.org\/2012\/10\/18\/the-real-problems-with-the-communications-data-bill-may-not-be-what-you-think\/\" target=\"_blank\">Writing for Index today<\/a>, Bartlett said:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>This type of widespread, mass social media monitoring needs to regulated, limited, and put on a legal footing.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Yet the fact that the bill is not subject to judicial oversight, combined with the prospect of a backstop power, worried some. For Oxford University\u2019s Ian Brown, the latter went to &#8220;the heart of proportionality&#8221;, which Index and <a title=\"Global Network Initiative - Written Evidence to the Communications Data Bill Joint Scrutiny Committee \" href=\"http:\/\/www.globalnetworkinitiative.org\/sites\/default\/files\/GNI%20submission%20on%20UK%20comms%20data%20bill%2023%20August%202012.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">other rights groups<\/a> have flagged as one of the bill&#8217;s greatest flaws.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The Home Office has to come out of its comfort zone,&#8221; Ascroft concluded, pointing to internal conflict over the bill. &#8220;The Foreign Office, justice department, culture department, they all have anxieties.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>While she predicted the bill would be amended, Hughes suggested there was \u00a0a risk this would not go far enough. &#8220;We need the UK&#8217;s voice out there defending digital freedom,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet tw-align-center\">\n<p>I hope that the panellists at the @<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/indexcensorship\">indexcensorship<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/search\/%23snooperscharter\">#snooperscharter<\/a> debate are right that the committee are learning fast! @<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/julianhuppert\">julianhuppert<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Paul Bernal (@PaulbernalUK) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/PaulbernalUK\/status\/258897267656900608\" data-datetime=\"2012-10-18T11:48:13+00:00\">October 18, 2012<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>The joint committee on the bill is due to report on 30 November.<\/p>\n<h3>Written evidence to the draft bill has been collated <a title=\"Joint Committee on Draft  Communications Data Bill \" href=\"http:\/\/www.parliament.uk\/documents\/joint-committees\/communications-data\/formatted%20written%20evidence.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a><\/h3>\n<h3>Index&#8217;s own submission is available\u00a0<a title=\"Index on Censorship - The Communications Data Bill: What Index says\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.indexoncensorship.org\/2012\/08\/23\/the-communications-data-bill-what-index-says\/\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a><\/h3>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Marta Cooper<\/strong>: Debating whether we need a &#8220;snooper&#8217;s charter&#8221; to safeguard our security<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":57,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","_mi_skip_tracking":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[5035,571,117,7358,269,4755,1721,390,7350],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.indexoncensorship.org\/newsite02may\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/93668"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.indexoncensorship.org\/newsite02may\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.indexoncensorship.org\/newsite02may\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.indexoncensorship.org\/newsite02may\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/57"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.indexoncensorship.org\/newsite02may\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=93668"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.indexoncensorship.org\/newsite02may\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/93668\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.indexoncensorship.org\/newsite02may\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=93668"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.indexoncensorship.org\/newsite02may\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=93668"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.indexoncensorship.org\/newsite02may\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=93668"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}