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Banning of Geller and Spencer from UK will only build grievance
26 Jun 2013
BY PADRAIG REIDY

Britain’s bar on anti-Muslim activists travelling to the country could do more harm than good, says Padraig Reidy

Pamela Geller (Pic Mark Tenally/Demotix)

Pamela Geller (Pic Mark Tenally/Demotix)


“Counter-jihadists” Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer have been banned from the UK, according to letters apparently sent from the Home Office they have posted on their respective websites.

The pair were due to address a rally this weekend in Woolwich, London, scene of the brutal murder of Drummer Lee Rigby on 22 May. Rigby’s killers have claimed to be acting in the name of Islam, and had links to banned extremist group Al Muhajiroun.

The Home Office letters quote Geller and Spencers words as justification for their exclusion; Geller apparently claimed that Al Qaeda “is Islam”, and Spencer says the religion “mandates warfare” against non-believers.

This ban is not without precedent: we know that the Home Office maintains a list of people who are prohibited from entering the country. When then Home Secretary Jacqui Smith released the names on the list in 2009, it included anti-Muslim activists and preachers, as well as Russian neo-Nazis, Hamas member Yunis Al-Astal and the entirely ridiculous Fred Phelps of the Westboro Baptist church.

Dutch MP Geert Wilders was banned in 2009, though he later appealed that decision and won, finally entering the country in 2010, to, it must be said, little fanfare.

Back at the time of Wilders’ original ban in 2009, I wrote:

“Traditionally, censorship has been used in an attempt to quell dissent and opposition, and in large part of the world it is used against progressive movements. But when we seek to censor reactionaries, such as Wilders, the BNP, or Hizb ut-Tahrir, we allow them to see themselves, and portray themselves, as the dissenters, the truth-tellers. The notion of oppression, of suppression, is now almost essential to any political movement’s sense of self.
“Censorship lends an air of legitimacy to arguments that may not necessarily warrant it. In this sense, it is as insidious when used against bad arguments as when used against good ones.”

The co-ordinated statements on Geller’s and Spencer’s websites bear out their new found status: “In not allowing us into the country solely because of our true and accurate statements about Islam, the British government is behaving like a de facto Islamic state. The nation that gave the world the Magna Carta is dead.”

Their enemies are rejecting the truth: sound familiar? They crave martyrdom, perhaps not of the exact kind jihadists believe will bring them reward in heaven but nonetheless the kind that allows them to be seen as suffering for their righteous cause.

In any war-of-civilisations vision of the world, it is liberalism and tolerance that is the real enemy, and in this case, liberalism has shot itself in the foot by using draconian measures.

In a 1994 article for Index on Censorship, the late philosopher Ronald Dworkin argued:

“The temptation may be near overwhelming … to declare that people have no right to pour the filth of pornography or race-hatred into the culture in which we all must live. But we cannot do that without forfeiting our moral title to force such people to bow to the collective judgements that do make their way into the statute books. We may and must protect women and homosexuals and members of minority groups from specific and damaging consequences of sexism, intolerance, and racism. We must protect them against unfairness and inequality in employment or education or housing or the criminal process, for example, and we may adopt laws to achieve that protection. But we must not try to intervene further upstream, by forbidding any expression of the attitudes or prejudices that we think nourish such unfairness or inequality, because if we intervene too soon in the process through which collective opinion is formed, we spoil the only democratic justification we have for insisting that everyone obey these laws, even those who hate and resent them.”

This is the problem with banning people such as Geller and Spencer, Islamic preacher Zakir Naik and others: Once we have an established principle that we can ban people who have not actually committed a crime in this country, on the grounds that what they say may not be conducive to the public good, then we risk an ever higher stakes game: the next time a controversial Muslim preacher passes through the country, there will be cries that that person was allowed in but not Geller; likewise when the next Geert Wilders enters, it will be asked how come he can enter, but Zakir Naik cannot? And on it goes, grievances building.

If these people break the law while in the country, and are prosecuted and barred, whether for hate speech, incitement to violence or relevant criminal offences, then at least it can be said that we are all subject to the same law, and the law has been broken. But this pre-emptive extra-judicial move is a strategy that risks undermining cohesion and entrenching bitterness in an already vicious argument.

10 responses to “Banning of Geller and Spencer from UK will only build grievance”

  1. trasporti says:

    Spot on with this write-up, I truly think this website needs much more consideration. I

  2. free agent says:

    I don’t think anyone supporting the ban has actually looked at Robert’s website, or read any of his books. He is a scholar telling the truth.

    Our government don’t like to tell the truth. That’s where the conflict lies. That’s why they aren’t allowed in.

    Judge for yourself:

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/

    And Pamela Geller never applauded Breivik.

  3. chimoio says:

    ha! and your website is called”free expression”
    you are having a laugh aren’t you?

  4. Tec15 says:

    I don’t recall such concern after the deportation of Raed Saleh on bogus grounds and Israeli behest or indeed in the case of many Islamic preachers denied entry due “extremism”. They are conveniently brought up only when there is a need to defend the likes of Geller, Spencer or Wilders but not when they themselves are the subject of bans. There were pios warnings about the harm to “community relations” after Raed Saleh was illegally deported after false allegations were levied at him by Zionist Orgs. As a matter of fact, that matter was entirely ignored. Too bad he was not a white bigot like Wilders or Flemming Rose, or the site would have fallen over itself with the wall to wall coverage about the threat to his “sacred” “free speech” rights. Lip service notwithstanding, the site transparently only goes to bat for the likes of Wilders, Geller and co and definitely not for people from the opposite side of the spectrum.

    Also, looks like some of the mouth breathing commentators have read between the lines, and offered what the site desperately wants to; an unqualified defence of Geller and Spencer and their bigotry.

  5. anthony dale says:

    It is ridiculous to compare Geller and Spencer with the jihadists who spout an extremist ideology. It’s a disgrace and shows the utter contempt the UK government holds for ordinary British people.

  6. Mohammed says:

    What Geller and Spencer are preaching – when looked at objectively, is perfectly valid. They are not promoting racism, or demanding that people who do not hold their beliefs be beheaded or stoned to death.

    They are pointing out the serious failings of islam and its aims and more preposterous ‘terms and conditions’ which should be obvious to any person with normal intelligence or above.

    When social engineers manipulate society by inducing it to think that telling the truth is criminal – you should take a cold hard look at yourself and ask yourself what sort of world do you really want to live in.

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  8. Greg says:

    I don’t know what they would have actually said if they’d come to the UK and whether they would directly harm community relations, but allowing them in would be an active decision given the campaign against it, and doing so would harm community relations in the sense of making Muslims feel more vulnerable. Islamic extremists would percieve double standards.

    With the ban, it is actually easier now, politically, to keep out Muslim hate preachers since both sides of the imported extremism coin have to an extent received this treatment.

    It’s pretty hard to contest that these two would harm community relations, with their preaching of a bigotted approach of seeing Muslims first, people second, and an almost metaphysical, dogmatic-religious concept of one true Islam and what a Muslim is at that.

    As for whether freedom of speech should trump preventing the spread of hate between communities – that’s another question.

  9. Well as long as Geller is applauding the massacres of Breivik – she should be banned anywhere. I don’t agree the arguments of Padraig Reidy at all.

  10. Steve Foulger says:

    Congratulations to Teresa May who has just handed a nice juicy bit of free publicity to Geller and Spencer. They can now bask in their new convenient roles as victims of Britain’s supine surrender to militant Islamic sensibilities – possibly more useful to their cause than coming over to join the EDL for a display of lager fuelled bigotry. The EDL will also be able to paint themselves as co-victims of censorship. These pre-emptive bans do nothing to prevent hate speech and much to harm free speech.